Dr Beyan’s argument affects not only Addis Ababa, but also Awassa, Dire Dawa, Harar, etc. Derg gave Somali land, Harari land, and more to Oromos using the Land Reform Proclamation and the Ethio-Somalia Wars. Where can you stop following your point of view ? Once that was Somali land, now is Oromo land; one that was Harari land now is Oromo land, and the list goes on and vice versa. What is the demarcation of Oromo land. You start history from Minilik; other may go further back. I think you better reconsider you point of view. Think of others’ interests too.
“Yegna yegna new, yeInanten inimakerbetalen! ” That isthe motto of Abyssinian elites concerning non-Abyssinian lands. Gonder is the capital city and part & parcel of Amhara Federal state. Meqele is the capital city and part and parcel of Tigray region. No body questions that. When it comes to oromia, you incessantly question why not only Finfinne but other cities like Adama, Jimma, Asalla should belong into Oromia. The same question arises concerning Hawasa, Arba-Minch etc. This is pure colonizer mentality!
If you really want a break with the past (keeping Oromos and people of the south as colonial subjects, rather than equal citizens), there will be no more Ethiopia as one state. Mark my words!
It is impossible to negotiate with Habeshas. Negotiation demands compromiss, to reach a middle ground. When the Oromo say, ‘Ok, lets put the Liberation question on hold and negotiate”, Habeshas demand complete surrender! But Compromise is not abandoning one’s standpoint for nothing in exchange. But habeshas demand exactly that. They move not an inch.
To cut it short: Dr. Beyan, for that matter, is not the representative of the Oromo people. If his (and his party’s) softness is too much for the Habesha, I would say good night! Don’t blame others for the disintegration of Ethiopia.(Well, Tigres have killed it. You will carry it to the grave!)
The Habesha activists, even though they have PHd in front of their name seem to be very ignorant of Ethiopian history. Even the name “Ethiopia” is a recent coinage after WWII. Before that, the Country was known as Abyssinian empire. If one observes photos of league Of Nation country name tags, Abyssinia was the name that the country was known. the Ethiopia of 3 thousand years of existence is just a figment imagination of chauvinist bunches!
Present day Sheggar/Finfinnee/Addis Ababa is the creation of Menelik’s colonial expansion of the Empire. Prior to Addis, the Capital of the modern Abyssinia was in northern Showaa/Menz. Namely Ankober! Menelik’s Grand father was the culprit in pillaging and ransacking the Oromo residents of what is then known as Finfinnee Valley of The Gulale, Meta, Galan, Ekaa and Abichuu Oromo Clans who were and still are the original residents. William Cornwallis Harris who was traveling with the Abyssinian despot recorded the entire colonial forays to the Oromo region in his book:The Highlands of Ethiopia.
Harold Marcus’ books on Ethiopian History and culture are very good source for those who really want to understand the history of the country.
A History of Ethiopia Updated Edition
by Harold G. Marcus
The Life and Times of Menelik II: Ethiopia 1844-1913
by Harold G. Marcus
The Politics of Empire: Ethiopia, Great Britain and the United States 1941-1974
by Harold G. Marcus
and for those who wants to understand the definitive History or Oromo Nation: Dr. Mohammed Hassan’s The Oromo of Ethiopia: A History, 1570-1860
Oromo Democracy: An Indigenous African Political System
Asmarom Legesse
The Oromo and the Christian Kingdom of Ethiopia (Eastern Africa Series)Dr.
Mohammed Hassan
Dr Abraham would soberly served if he can get his hands on this books and read them. Some of his statements bout Oromo Nation/people is not what is expected from a PHD holder !
Burqaa Dorry
The claim of Mr. Abraham by comparing Finfinne with Vatikan is similar to that of some racist white settlers of Southafrica who tried to claim their own state within Southafrica at the beginning of the 90th. Those individuals were growing up with the mentalities of apartheid and they cannot accept the Africans as an equal human being. Therefore, it was a shame for them to live with the Africans as an equal citizen. We have been entertaining such latent apartheid and segregation mentalists in Ethiopia since the Era of Menelik. For them the Oromo nation is subhuman and it’s cultural and social values are irrelevant. But now the time of such individuals with antihuman mentalities is up. No more segregation and discrimination of the Oromo nation and it’s culture and laguage in it’s own homeland. The sleeping giant is awake. The dreams of persons like Abraham Alem are just a sign of desperation and hopelessness. No one can help them. Abraham Alemu is agains the basic human rights of the OROMO nation even though he grew up in Oromia. He has been biting those hands which fed him the best nourishment until his manhood age.
Ethiopia cannot go back to the era of Haile Selassie or Menelik. The Habeshas can not have their hagemoy more in Oromia. The integrity of Oromia including Finfinnee will be untouchable. The Oromo nation has been fighting injustice and subjugation in it’s homeland, Oromia in order to regain it’s human dignity as one of the great nations of East Africa. We can only build a new democratic Ethiopia on the will of the subjugated peoples. But the children of the new and old neftegnas have no the moral and mental capacities to tell us what to do.
The demands of the Oromo people are beyond wich defined in this document. It’s main demand is first of all the ownership of the city itself. Of course the basic human rights and all social, cultural and economic rights of the residents of the city will be respected at the individual and group levels fully. But it should not contradict itself with that of the Oromo nation.
But I have the following questions for Mr. Abraham: do you have a compassion for those who have been evicted in the last 130 years? Do you feel the pain of those about a half million Oromo who have been removed from their homeland around Finfinne in the last 25 years? Have they not deserve justice? What about the forcefully replacement of the Oromo culture and language by those of the settlers? Do you think the Oromo are subhuman? The latent segregation policies of the administrative systems of that country since the era of Menelik on the Oromo around Finfinne kept them away from education and development. Besides that it has controlled them in the darkness and self-denial status by labeling their social and cultural values and language as the savage and uncivilized entities. Do you agree and support with such arrangements, policies and psychological wars?
Finally, you may agree with me that these vicious circle of discrimination, latent segregation and forcefully assimilation policies have been broken by the sustainable struggle of the Oromo heroes and heroines, but it is not at the freewill of the suppressive rulers. It will also never repairable. The Oromo Qubee generations will gard the legacies of their fathers.
I wish for all Ethiopian peoples mutual understanding and respect. Besides that I wish a democratic based and true unity, peace and prosperity for all of our peoples in our homeland Ethiopia.
Dr Beyan’s argument affects not only Addis Ababa, but also Awassa, Dire Dawa, Harar, etc. Derg gave Somali land, Harari land, and more to Oromos using the Land Reform Proclamation and the Ethio-Somalia Wars. Where can you stop following your point of view ? Once that was Somali land, now is Oromo land; one that was Harari land now is Oromo land, and the list goes on and vice versa. What is the demarcation of Oromo land. You start history from Minilik; other may go further back. I think you better reconsider you point of view. Think of others’ interests too.
ያለፉት የታወቁ በኣለም የአልቂት ጦርነቶች ኣንደኛ አና ሁለተኛ ኣለም ጦርነቶችን ጨምሮ መንሴኤኣቸው በኣንድ ዘር የበላይነት ሌሎችን ዝቅ ከማደረግ;ትናንት በታሪክ ተበድለናል ወይም ገናና ነበርን ከሚል ከንቱ ቁጭት,በመሳሰሉት ምክንያቶች ነው። መሰረታቸውም ዘውግን ወይም ጎሳን ማአከል ያረገ Ethnic nationalism ነው። ይህ ኣመለካከት ከወደቀ ቢያንስ 70 ኣመት ያለፈዋል።
ዛሬ ወቅታዊ የሆነው ኣቀራረብ ሀገርን አንድ ኣንድ ትልቅ ማህበረሰብ በመቁጠር በውስጡ የሚኖሩትን በ አኩልነት፣ በነጻነት ኣንድ ወጥ ዜጋ ኣድርጎ ይወስዳል።በዘውግ መደራጀት ለፖለቲካ ስልጣን ለማያዝ አስካልሆነ ደረስ የተፈቀደ ነው. መንግስትን የሚመራው ኣካል የሚመረጠው የዚህኛው ዘውግ ተቆርቁዋሪ ወይም ይዛኛው ሳይሆን በሚያቀርበው Ideology፣ ideals ፣ outlook…ወዘተ ነው.
It is based on civic nationalism with forward looking but not backward.Individual rights come first before Group rights.
ታዲያ የኛ የዘውግ /ጎሳ ፖለቲከኞች ያረጀ ፣ያፈጀ ፣ኣደገኛ Ethnic Nationalism ላይ ሙጭጭ ያሉት የኣለምን ታሪክ ካላማወቅ ነው ? ወይስ ኣንስታይን ባንድ ወቅት አንዳለው የአብደት ፖለቲካ ?
“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results”.ወይስ ጭልጥ ያለ Opportunism ?
በሀገራችን ለውጥ ይምጣ ስንል ኣሁን ያለውን ዘውግ ላይ የተመሰረተውን የፈደራል ስርኣት ከስሩ ነቅሎ ሀገራችንን የጎሳዎች ንብረት ሳትሆን የዜጎችዋ ማድረግ ንው። ከዛ መለስ ስልቻ ቀልቀሎ፣ ቀልቀሎ ስልቻ ነው።
ከፍተኛ ኣደጋም ኣለው።
ለውጥ ውፈላጊዎች ወይም ታጋዮች ዋነኛ ትኩረት ያለውን መንግስት መጣል ብቻ ሳይሆን ከወደቀ በሁዋለ ስለሚመሰረተው የመንግስት ስርኣት ግልጽ ያለ ምልከታ ያስፈልጋል። በዶክተሮቹ ላይ የታየው የኣመለካከት ልይነት ወደ ታች ሲወርድ ምን ሊሆን አንድሚችል ጤነኛ ኣይምሮ ላለው ሰው ኣደጋውን ሊገነዘበው ይችላል።
ምሁራኖች ተወያዩ ፣ተከራከሩ ፣ ተመካከሩ….የሀገራችን ጉዳይ የነ ቶሎ ቶሎ ቤት ግድግዳው ሰንበሌጥ አንዳይሆን።
Thank you all .
“Yegna yegna new, yeInanten inimakerbetalen! ” That isthe motto of Abyssinian elites concerning non-Abyssinian lands. Gonder is the capital city and part & parcel of Amhara Federal state. Meqele is the capital city and part and parcel of Tigray region. No body questions that. When it comes to oromia, you incessantly question why not only Finfinne but other cities like Adama, Jimma, Asalla should belong into Oromia. The same question arises concerning Hawasa, Arba-Minch etc. This is pure colonizer mentality!
If you really want a break with the past (keeping Oromos and people of the south as colonial subjects, rather than equal citizens), there will be no more Ethiopia as one state. Mark my words!
It is impossible to negotiate with Habeshas. Negotiation demands compromiss, to reach a middle ground. When the Oromo say, ‘Ok, lets put the Liberation question on hold and negotiate”, Habeshas demand complete surrender! But Compromise is not abandoning one’s standpoint for nothing in exchange. But habeshas demand exactly that. They move not an inch.
To cut it short: Dr. Beyan, for that matter, is not the representative of the Oromo people. If his (and his party’s) softness is too much for the Habesha, I would say good night! Don’t blame others for the disintegration of Ethiopia.(Well, Tigres have killed it. You will carry it to the grave!)
The Habesha activists, even though they have PHd in front of their name seem to be very ignorant of Ethiopian history. Even the name “Ethiopia” is a recent coinage after WWII. Before that, the Country was known as Abyssinian empire. If one observes photos of league Of Nation country name tags, Abyssinia was the name that the country was known. the Ethiopia of 3 thousand years of existence is just a figment imagination of chauvinist bunches!
Present day Sheggar/Finfinnee/Addis Ababa is the creation of Menelik’s colonial expansion of the Empire. Prior to Addis, the Capital of the modern Abyssinia was in northern Showaa/Menz. Namely Ankober! Menelik’s Grand father was the culprit in pillaging and ransacking the Oromo residents of what is then known as Finfinnee Valley of The Gulale, Meta, Galan, Ekaa and Abichuu Oromo Clans who were and still are the original residents. William Cornwallis Harris who was traveling with the Abyssinian despot recorded the entire colonial forays to the Oromo region in his book:The Highlands of Ethiopia.
Harold Marcus’ books on Ethiopian History and culture are very good source for those who really want to understand the history of the country.
A History of Ethiopia Updated Edition
by Harold G. Marcus
The Life and Times of Menelik II: Ethiopia 1844-1913
by Harold G. Marcus
The Politics of Empire: Ethiopia, Great Britain and the United States 1941-1974
by Harold G. Marcus
and for those who wants to understand the definitive History or Oromo Nation: Dr. Mohammed Hassan’s The Oromo of Ethiopia: A History, 1570-1860
Oromo Democracy: An Indigenous African Political System
Asmarom Legesse
The Oromo and the Christian Kingdom of Ethiopia (Eastern Africa Series)Dr.
Mohammed Hassan
Dr Abraham would soberly served if he can get his hands on this books and read them. Some of his statements bout Oromo Nation/people is not what is expected from a PHD holder !
Burqaa Dorry
The claim of Mr. Abraham by comparing Finfinne with Vatikan is similar to that of some racist white settlers of Southafrica who tried to claim their own state within Southafrica at the beginning of the 90th. Those individuals were growing up with the mentalities of apartheid and they cannot accept the Africans as an equal human being. Therefore, it was a shame for them to live with the Africans as an equal citizen. We have been entertaining such latent apartheid and segregation mentalists in Ethiopia since the Era of Menelik. For them the Oromo nation is subhuman and it’s cultural and social values are irrelevant. But now the time of such individuals with antihuman mentalities is up. No more segregation and discrimination of the Oromo nation and it’s culture and laguage in it’s own homeland. The sleeping giant is awake. The dreams of persons like Abraham Alem are just a sign of desperation and hopelessness. No one can help them. Abraham Alemu is agains the basic human rights of the OROMO nation even though he grew up in Oromia. He has been biting those hands which fed him the best nourishment until his manhood age.
Ethiopia cannot go back to the era of Haile Selassie or Menelik. The Habeshas can not have their hagemoy more in Oromia. The integrity of Oromia including Finfinnee will be untouchable. The Oromo nation has been fighting injustice and subjugation in it’s homeland, Oromia in order to regain it’s human dignity as one of the great nations of East Africa. We can only build a new democratic Ethiopia on the will of the subjugated peoples. But the children of the new and old neftegnas have no the moral and mental capacities to tell us what to do.
The demands of the Oromo people are beyond wich defined in this document. It’s main demand is first of all the ownership of the city itself. Of course the basic human rights and all social, cultural and economic rights of the residents of the city will be respected at the individual and group levels fully. But it should not contradict itself with that of the Oromo nation.
But I have the following questions for Mr. Abraham: do you have a compassion for those who have been evicted in the last 130 years? Do you feel the pain of those about a half million Oromo who have been removed from their homeland around Finfinne in the last 25 years? Have they not deserve justice? What about the forcefully replacement of the Oromo culture and language by those of the settlers? Do you think the Oromo are subhuman? The latent segregation policies of the administrative systems of that country since the era of Menelik on the Oromo around Finfinne kept them away from education and development. Besides that it has controlled them in the darkness and self-denial status by labeling their social and cultural values and language as the savage and uncivilized entities. Do you agree and support with such arrangements, policies and psychological wars?
Finally, you may agree with me that these vicious circle of discrimination, latent segregation and forcefully assimilation policies have been broken by the sustainable struggle of the Oromo heroes and heroines, but it is not at the freewill of the suppressive rulers. It will also never repairable. The Oromo Qubee generations will gard the legacies of their fathers.
I wish for all Ethiopian peoples mutual understanding and respect. Besides that I wish a democratic based and true unity, peace and prosperity for all of our peoples in our homeland Ethiopia.